From: Dr. Beau Webber [J_dot_B_dot_W_dot_Webber_at_kent_dot_ac_dot_uk]
Sent: 24 January 2009 10:12
Subject: RE: live music in pubs ..........
Thanks Andy,
About 1.20 "profit" per pint for a typical sheps pub, apparently, out of which pub running costs (a border-line operation for many pubs) and paying a band cost of typically 120 to around 250 have to come....
I am coming to believe that if we want the music in our pubs that over at least the next year we will have to do more to fund it ...
 
I fully agree re price of non-alcoholic drinks, and will also make the point that dancers need 2 or more pints of non-alcohollic drink, and that a pint of the ginger beer as I like when driving can cost over a fiver in some pubs, which is quite unreasonable.
cheers,
    Beau


From: Andybanjo_at_aol_dot_com [mailto:Andybanjo_at_aol_dot_com]
Sent: 24 January 2009 07:45
Subject: live music in pubs ..........

Hi Beau,
interested to see the various reasons advanced by publicans about the lack of funds generated by "live" music - but I'm afraid that the one about "no-one drinking" won't wash ....
 
assuming by "drinking" that they mean the consumption of alcoholic beverages, it's nonsense - a publican makes a far better profit margin on the sales of non-alcoholic drinks. volume-for-volume, they are much the same retail price as alcoholic drinks and the publican only has to account for VAT on them, not VAT + Excise Duty ...........
 
possibly publicans might contribute both to the preservation of "live" music and the Government drive to reduce alochol abuse by offering more reasonably-priced non-alcoholic drinks at gigs - and perhaps selling rather more of them ....... "pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap" hasn't done Tesco any harm ...........
 
there is the danger that the traditional English pub might turn into something more like a Continental "Cafe-Bar" ............ not ideal - but better than the wholesale closures that are now in train .........
 
see you around, kind regards ,andybanjo
 
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